Collector Car Council Update

Collector Car Council Update
...with permission OECC by Fred Bennett

Fred Bennett long time member of the OECC and member of the Collector Car Council reports in ...for the CXKJR & CCMGC clubs
A meeting of the Collector Car Council was held April 21, 2008, chaired by Nigel Matthews (ICBC), attended by John Carlson (NAAACCC), Jim McDonald (Vintage Car Club of Canada), and Fred Bennett (OECC).
There was a Q & A Session as reproted here:
Q: Review or clarify sanctioned events/activities related to vintage plated vehicles.
A: Regulations permit transportation to, from, and use in exhibitions, club activities, parades and like functions, repairs and servicing, and presentation for vehicle inspection. Owner concerns generally focus on defining “club activities” and avoiding any violation. Few, if any, difficulties arise. The policy writers in Victoria are currently reviewing usage of the plate. This is a licensing, not an underwriting, issue. To be followed up.

Q: Review the process regarding the use of vintage/collector vehicles for movie making.
A: Vintage/collector approved vehicles are not licensed or insured for use on movie sets. Permission to do so must be obtained from ICBC. Your Autoplan broker will refer to Autoplan Bulletin “Permission for Collector Vehicles to be Used on Movie Sets,” November 8, 2002, Number 2002-15, pages 1 and 2. This procedure may cover active collector plated vehicles, vehicles insured under a collector multiplate policy, and unrenewed or stored collector vehicles. A Temporary Operation Permit will be required and, possibly, a temporary change endorsement. A Collector Vehicle Agreed Value policy will not be in effect while a vehicle is being used on a film set or other commercial usage.

Q: What is the claims frequency for vintage, collector, and modified collector vehicles?
A: Numbers not made available at this time. It was stressed that claims numbers are very small, premium cost increases are not being considered.

Q: Explore the possibility of instituting a “year of manufacture”” license plate program.
A: No possibility at this time. The cost of a program change of this this type is prohibitive.

Q: What is the status of the inclusion of replica steel and composite bodies vehicles into the modified collector program?
A: This issue remains on the back burner. It must be addressed by Victoria, [but] opportunity is limited.

Q What is the ICBC position on fenderless cars?
A: This is a federal (DOT) area. Vehicles must conform to DOT requirements.

Q: What constitutes a period accessory?
A: If considering the addition of a period accessory, the best approach is to contact Nigel Matthews (604-982-4718) and ask the question. This will provide a definitive answer. It is also wise to provide a new picture (or pictures) showing any additions to update your vintage/collector plate record.

Q: What is the status of the modified A & B issue?
A: This began as an AirCare concern. Again, this requires the attention of Victoria with other issues having priority.

Q: The ability to distinguish between a regular collector plate and a modified collector plate has been requested since the beginning of the modified collector program. Can any progress in this are be expected?
A: None. As stated earlier, cost of making program changes, especially to accommodate a small customer group is prohibitive.

Q: Are blue-dot tail light lenses legal and able to pass a collector vehicle safety inspection.
A: No, blue-dot lenses are not acceptable and will not pass a safety inspection. This a federal Department of Transportation responsibility and ruling. From time to time the Council has brought the above issues up in order to “keep them on the table.” It appears that there is little appetite for change at this time. We will continue to pursue these and any other issues which are brought forward. It should be pointed out that vintage and stock collector vehicle owners have the fewest number of issues.

For immediate or individual concerns, you may contact: ICBC Collector/Vintage:
Nigel Matthews (604-982-4718)
AirCare Collector: Ron Leavitt, Emissions Advisor (604-453-5163) - have your vehicle registration number available.
You can call Fred Bennett (604-939-1773)
For more Collector Car Council deliberations as reported by Fred and posted to the OECC siteLink here.